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[tiger]

I guess FCRCC Mixed, final race last year in Kelowna, was an inexperienced team then  due to their complaints etc... all based on your above logic ...BTW they got a crappy boat for sure

Please don't mis-represent what I say, read a bit more thoroughly.

By the same token, that kinda takes away from the winning team who did an excellant job.  You're not trying to say, "they only won b/c the other team got the crappy boat" are you?

Of course not, the winning team won fair and square, all I am saying is that FCRCC complained about that race so they must be inexperienced based on your logic that only inexperienced teams complain.  In reality, FCRCC Mixed and the winning team had a terrifc race, FCRCC to finish where they did and Success to win against FCRCC, which is what a true competitive team does, they just paddle.  In the end every team complains, depends how loudly they do that, I am sure your team/you complained about who you raced on the weekend and perhaps last year after Alcan and the year before, just not too loudly . 

Of course if you read my reply MORE THROUGHLY you would see that I am advocating that the organizers should ensure the boats are as close as possible for championship races (every race would be nirvani but we have to walk before we run) which means at this point on False Creek, 6/16s should NOT be used for championship races, too variable. 

Now if some want to disagree fine, all I want are fair racing conditions (conditions means those under organizer's control) but that is what every racer/team wants, yes/no?  Who wants to win because they got a boat that is faster, etc than another team, it is a pretty hollow medal/trophy in my books (in fact I'll give you my medal if that happens to me, I promise you that)

[BernMan]

Rossifumi, Tiger, Colossus, Paddleboy and anyone else...

You guys all have good points. I am especially impressed with Rossifumi because you are only in your mid to late 20's right? And yet you sound like an aged veteran of many more years than that. Good points and well said my friend!

However the best way to resolve the issue of fairness and "equipment" is to truly have boats of similar models and age. So Tiger good points from you too!

But all other things such as weather, tides, winds, or what have you are out of your control so just paddle and paddle til you puke! If you did the best you did then you should be proud regardless of outcome. Just my opinion of course as I have never coached an upper level team. But I do tell my teams that I have expectations as to where they should end up based on their practices etc. Only thing that I think is in your control is determining which lane you will be in if you finish in a certain spot. ie: 2nd in race #3 will be in lane 4 or something like that. But then that creates strategy just for lane placements because some of us believe certain lanes in False Creek are better than others. (I know my buddy BH will give me crap for this 'cuz he swears there are advantages but I don't actually see them! LOL)

[Colossus]

However the best way to resolve the issue of fairness and "equipment" is to truly have boats of similar models and age.

so now we're all to be on the look out to recruit a paddler who has LOADS of extra money he/she doesn't know what to do with, so he/she can use that extra money to buy us all an entirely new fleet of boats (BUKs please ) so that those can't be blamed.  And then while we're at it, a never-ending supply of club paddles for those without paddles so they won't have to worry about using a damaged or water-logged paddle during a race.  8)

[Lethal Weapon]

If you were only a few years younger, you could keep up with me.....

I think you should stop spending your money on bigger lenses, but a camera that can take faster shots. OR get a boat, that moves faster...

That camera is fast enough to freeze your flapping gums its fast enough for anything!
No worries, it will be there in the beer tent if any of your skin starts to get exposed again
i actually have some very nice pictures from Victoria........

[PaddleFunk]

so now we're all to be on the look out to recruit a paddler who has LOADS of extra money he/she doesn't know what to do with, so he/she can use that extra money to buy us all an entirely new fleet of boats (BUKs please  ) so that those can't be blamed.  And then while we're at it, a never-ending supply of club paddles for those without paddles so they won't have to worry about using a damaged or water-logged paddle during a race.   

So while your at it why don't we get $19MM so we can build a facility just like Toronto's to take the tide and the wind out of it too... while your at it I would like cookie cutter steers people and drummers weighing less that 100 lbs each. 

Lets be realistic about this... there are always advantages and disadvantages on every boat... we don't all have $200 Carbon blades we don't all get the uniform boats... the stronger teams over come those issues that is part of what makes them strong. 

I think the real issue is not the run of the boats providing an advantage or disadvantage rather ability of the teams to overcome the disrepair of a missing foot peg or a cupped seats (hard to get leg drive when your cheek is sliding into a trough).

The point is that all these teams are strong enough to pull off a win on any given day regardless of equipment... Saturday happened to be FCRCC's day.

Equipment as an excuse... I don't think so.  If you where on the boat and it felt bad then fine you can complain but think before you speak was it really the boat or was it the passengers???

[Colossus]

so now we're all to be on the look out to recruit a paddler who has LOADS of extra money he/she doesn't know what to do with, so he/she can use that extra money to buy us all an entirely new fleet of boats (BUKs please  ) so that those can't be blamed.  And then while we're at it, a never-ending supply of club paddles for those without paddles so they won't have to worry about using a damaged or water-logged paddle during a race.   

So while your at it why don't we get $19MM so we can build a facility just like Toronto's to take the tide and the wind out of it too... while your at it I would like cookie cutter steers people and drummers weighing less that 100 lbs each. 

i think thats a GREAT idea!